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Indian far-right sweeps to power

Postby Werewolf32 » Sat May 17, 2014 5:07 pm

The Daily Mail alleges that India's new Prime Minister, Narendra Modi, leader of the Hindu nationalist BJP "has the blood of 1,000 Muslims on his hands", due to Hindu riots in 2002, in revenge for an arson attack on a train in which Hindu pilgrims died.\
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However, the liberal Guardian says he was "cleared of any wrongdoing", and that the living standards of Muslims in Gujarat, where he ruled has increased.\
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Let's hope there is no war between India and Pakistan.\
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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/m ... -elections
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Re: Indian far-right sweeps to power

Postby Amalgam » Mon May 19, 2014 8:12 pm

That's not possible. Both countries have a nuclear arsenal. A grand scale war would lead to mutually assured destruction (M.A.D.) and no party would benefit from that.\
It will probably remain restricted to some skirmishes in the mountains of Kashmir and such. A few provocations here and there. Neither India nor Pakistan seem to be as unrealistic in their military programme as for instance North-Korea. \
And don't forget that neither China, nor Russia or the US would turn a blind eye to an escalating conflict between India and Pakistan. India is a very important trade nation worldwide (don't know too much about Pakistan though). They (those other nations) won't let their business go to waste, I'm certain of that.
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Re: Indian far-right sweeps to power

Postby Sapromind » Fri May 23, 2014 7:43 pm

Amalgam wrote:mutually assured destruction (M.A.D.)
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The line "This is madness!" gets a new meaning \;)\
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Re: Indian far-right sweeps to power

Postby Amalgam » Sun May 25, 2014 8:26 pm

Never mind about all that. What about "European far-right sweeps to power"?\
Miss LePen and her anti-semitic father have gained a majority at the French elections for Euro parliament, and meanwhile in Belgium an armed lunatic has killed 4 at a Jewish museum in Brussels. Meanwhile in Ukraine there's citizens in the Eastern region that are shouting havoc about so-called European facists (as in nazis?).\
In Portugal and Greece Angela Merkel has been depicted or referred to as Hitler, not in a military context, but in a political and economical one. England isn't too keen on Euro politics either. The tendency seems to be a kind of isolationist "each to their own".\
Apparently there are some with a tremendous fear of an oppressive "European Super State".\
Indeed, we have extremism on the rise once again. Not sure if parralels to the 1930s are fully justified.\
But one sure thing is that Europe is in turmoil once again, and the US, Russia and China are pissing themselves laughing about it.\
The animosity amongst nations today doesn't seem to bode well for the next few years to come. A nice consequence of the 2008 fuck-ups in the world of banking.\
Coming up soon: Civil war in Turkey, just wait. Madness is coming! Hahahahaha.
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Re: Indian far-right sweeps to power

Postby LSDMOFRO » Mon May 26, 2014 12:18 am

WARDANCE! That actually sums it up... It's been going on since humans figured out that for a brief moment, a rock upon another's head solves a problem temporarily, but, of course, didn't realize it backfires and escalates towards more rocks. Hey! He threw a rock at me! Well, I'll just throw one back! and so on, and so on...we certainly can mark greed and religion or both as a driving force. All this horseshit in the world is never ending and as long as ethnocentrism and greed exists, so will this horseshit. What's great is that people in this forum are very aware of this flaw of humanity. Personally, I've been getting a lot of my news about how crazy and fucked up the world really is from Vice News and other independent outlets that give you the "thick of things" perspective and imbed you inside the mayhem; you can come to your own conclusions or have fun with the joke and predict what moves the monsters of the real gaming world will make next... The Guardian is of course a decent large media outlet...but they have their pressures and restraints as well. I think that is currently obvious. Let us all begin to find our news other than corporate media outlets--sometimes we have to dig deep to find these outlets. I encourage others to check out Vice News latest dispatches of what's going on in the world...ex...Vice News latest dispatches on Ukraine or Thailand. Pretty brave stuff. I've a lot of respect for independent journalists of this type. Takes a lot of courage to give us an inside perspective and make up our own minds...
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Re: Indian far-right sweeps to power

Postby Werewolf32 » Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:50 am

Amalgam wrote:Never mind about all that. What about "European far-right sweeps to power"?\
Miss LePen and her anti-semitic father have gained a majority at the French elections for Euro parliament, and meanwhile in Belgium an armed lunatic has killed 4 at a Jewish museum in Brussels. Meanwhile in Ukraine there's citizens in the Eastern region that are shouting havoc about so-called European facists (as in nazis?).\
In Portugal and Greece Angela Merkel has been depicted or referred to as Hitler, not in a military context, but in a political and economical one. England isn't too keen on Euro politics either. The tendency seems to be a kind of isolationist "each to their own".\
Apparently there are some with a tremendous fear of an oppressive "European Super State".\
Indeed, we have extremism on the rise once again. Not sure if parralels to the 1930s are fully justified.\
But one sure thing is that Europe is in turmoil once again, and the US, Russia and China are pissing themselves laughing about it.\
The animosity amongst nations today doesn't seem to bode well for the next few years to come. A nice consequence of the 2008 fuck-ups in the world of banking.\
Coming up soon: Civil war in Turkey, just wait. Madness is coming! Hahahahaha.
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Quite true. Even the Neo-Nazi NPD in Germany got an MEP elected and the neo-fascist Golden Dawn in Greece got 3 MEPs elected to the European Parliament. (The original Golden Dawn was a Magical Order in 19th Century London).\
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WARDANCE and MADNESS indeed!
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Re: Indian far-right sweeps to power

Postby Sapromind » Tue Jun 03, 2014 4:42 pm

So let me throw in two cents from the Polish site - Kongres Nowej Prawicy, which is a far-right, anti-socialistic party gained entry to the euro parliament, and they claim that they'll destroy the EU. What's particularly depressing is how popular they are amongst the young people. I blame their populistic approach and their attractive (because of the level of hate) Facebook page.
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Re: Indian far-right sweeps to power

Postby Amalgam » Thu Jun 05, 2014 1:22 pm

Yeah sure, we're currently experiencing quite a bit of anti-EU sentiments. It seems most think of progress in the form of "none for all, all for none", and some would rather return to times gone by, reinstating old currencies and such.\
Especially frustrated young males, unemployed and under-educated people fall for the lure of populist parties. If only they would ever understand that a solution for problems isn't helped by isolationism and the exclusion of minorities of certain backgrounds,\
History will always repeat itself when it comes to sentiments of general discontent by people who get the feeling that politicians are not at all acting in the interest of the common man. \
The strange thing is that the far right-wing politician can hide beneath a cloak of false rhetorics and simplistic scapegoating, and the aforementioned groups won't see through all that, blinded by their hatred as they are. \
In the end the far right-wing politician doesn't offer true solutions, just the illusion of fast and easy solutions, which is something so many people are craving for. \
I believe that the reason why the extreme right in Europe is on the rise is because many people are afraid that the ongoing economical crisis with all its problems will not be over soon. Unemployment and living below the poverty line will persist and probably worsen. Yup, it all looks pretty crappy indeed and even though I don't live in Greece, Spain or Portugal but in one of the more welfaring countries, I don't think that many people expect a return to the times like before 2008, or the relative optimism of the nineties. Instead, we are now seeing idiots flirting with nazi salutations who think it's funny or that it's so-called 'anti-establishment' (I mean what the french call the 'quenelle'). Such moral misery would make a great theme for a new KJ album (and not in the flirting sense of course).
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